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Nikki Staxx
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Visited:

  • August 2006, August 2007

Location:

    [*]Atlantic coast, south of Gironde estuary near some of the best Bordeaux vineyards, and just north of Montalivet

Accommodation Available:

    [*]Camping, pre-erected tents, caravans, mobile homes, timber houses (some are huge!)

Commercial Facilities:

    [*]Bakery/patisserie, fishmonger, wine merchant, 2 small supermarkets, butcher, takeaway, 4 restaurants/bars, hardware/camping store, bike hire, video hire, laundrette and more, based around central square

Activities:

    [*]Over 40 free activities including archery, swimming, many different sporting and educational/craft sessions, films, lectures, concerts etc. plus paid activities including thallasotherapy centre, tennis, horse riding and much more

Beach:

    [*]over a mile of sand, good for surfing, patrolled by lifeguards

Pitches:

    [*]large, in pine forest, mostly on sandy ground. Electric hookups available. Caravans get electricity, water and drainage. Sanitary blocks are large, plentiful and immaculate.

Price:

    [*]We paid around €25/night and felt we had excellent value

Overall rating:

    [*]Good value, excellent facilities, BIG!, great for families, good beach, on site shops/restaurants a bit more expensive but no worries about drinking and driving - 85/100

Top Tip:

    [*]Take your bikes or hire them - it makes moving around such a big site much easier and your kids will find many new friends with bikes, so they'll disappear and you'll get some peace and quiet!
 
Posted : September 30, 2009 8:54 am
MarknGail
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Have been here 3 times now and every time we visit there are more and more Textiles last year (2008)around 50%.

prices for food and drinks very expensive Typical meal in Lore du Pins for 4 was 120 Euro in 2008 Pint lager was 4.50 - 7.50 euro.

Police were very quick to arrest a man on beach photographing kids, he had been charged and arrested and his caravan was in Police custody inside 20 minutes of the complaint being made. Brilliant.

In all a good site very tired and run down needs money spending on it which you would have thought they would have done. Swimming pool was reciently modernised.

 
Posted : October 22, 2009 3:13 pm
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... every time we visit there are more and more Textiles last year (2008)around 50%.

I was there for the first time last week for 3 days and loved it, but I was surprised that most people were textile.

I asked at reception when we booked in if it was 100% naturist all of the time and she said yes, apart from people sometimes get dressed when it cools down in the evenings.

Well, no, last week most people were textile most of the time! By most I mean 90-95% and they were fully dressed - shoes, trousers, shirts, fleeces (!) and so on.

Not that I got a second look or anything for being naked, but I felt under-dressed in the queue of 15+ people at the bakery, for instance.

Is this other people's experience too? I found it really odd.

Steve

 
Posted : June 26, 2011 8:21 pm
 Alan
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Was it cold while you were there?

We were there for a week at the end of August 2009, the weather was pretty hot most of the time and most people were nude during the day with just a few people wearing clothes (minimal) to ride bikes. When I went to the bakers I don't remember anybody beiing clothed except the shop assistants. The only time I was in the minority being nude was in the evenings when most people dress for bars and restaurants, but I wasn't the only one nude and didn't feal uncomfortable.

I didn't wear any clothes from tte moment I arrived until I got in the car to come home 🙂 8 days

Alan

 
Posted : June 26, 2011 11:58 pm
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er, no! It was boiling!

 
Posted : June 27, 2011 7:39 pm
Brigitte
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There seems to a trend for this and I don't understand it in a naturist resort. If there are a lot of people dressed you also unfortunately question their motives.

I must lay my cards on the table and say I don't like the idea of 'clothing optional'. Some argue it's progressive when it comes to beaches, I disagree, as being surrounded by textiles would make me profoundly uncomfortable and you don't know if they are taking adantage of the classification to have a look.

I'm an old fashioned type in a lot of ways. A naturist beach or resort should just that. If people are walking around dressed, they should be asked why and told politely to disrobe or leave. It's not as if there aren't plenty of venues where they can stay dressed to their heart's content.

Anyway, interesting to read about it, but I think Euronat and other French resorts are pricing themselves rather high in these times.

'I figure life's a gift and I don't intend wasting it. You never know what hand you're gonna get dealt next.' Titanic.'Shine as a glow worm if you cannot as a star.' Thomas Andrews, shipbuilder.
'We'll miss the matinee but we'll make the night show.' The Greatest Show on Earth 1952.

 
Posted : June 29, 2011 12:35 pm
John Gw
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There seems to a trend for this and I don't understand it in a naturist resort. If there are a lot of people dressed you also unfortunately question their motives.

I can't be bothered to get excited about their simple pleasures unless it actively interferes with my way of life.

I must lay my cards on the table and say I don't like the idea of 'clothing optional'. Some argue it's progressive when it comes to beaches, I disagree, as being surrounded by textiles would make me profoundly uncomfortable and you don't know if they are taking adantage of the classification to have a look.

My perverse (not, I hope, perverted) nature prompts me to stay naked longer than I would otherwise in the hope of shaming them.

I'm an old fashioned type in a lot of ways. A naturist beach or resort should just that. If people are walking around dressed, they should be asked why and told politely to disrobe or leave. It's not as if there aren't plenty of venues where they can stay dressed to their heart's content.

I have noticed the same textile invasion phenomenon elsewhere, particularly on the naturist coves of El Cotillo, Fuerteventura.
I think it is partly the more relaxed atmosphere of most naturist venues together with the fact that places like Euronat have equipped the place comprehensively with all the facilities you need without going off-site, unlike most textile establishments.

Anyway, interesting to read about it, but I think Euronat and other French resorts are pricing themselves rather high in these times.

If they are managing to fill the establishment at high season the pricing is not excessive for the market.

JOhn
Do not do unto others as you would that they should do unto you. Their tastes may not be the same.
George Bernard Shaw, Maxims for Revolutionaries

 
Posted : June 29, 2011 3:58 pm
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I must lay my cards on the table and say I don't like the idea of 'clothing optional'. Some argue it's progressive when it comes to beaches, I disagree, as being surrounded by textiles would make me profoundly uncomfortable and you don't know if they are taking adantage of the classification to have a look.

I agree with you that people inside a naturist resort should play by the rules. However, in general I'm more for mutual tolerance rather than segregation and enforcement of rules. Any clothing-optional site or situation (which Euronat supposedly is not, of course) is demanding this mutual tolerance and is therefore a step in the right direction towards a society where (un)dress codes are given the importance they deserve - i.e. not much at all. Roll on the day, though I regret it is unlikely to be in my lifetime (outside of the current naturist ghettos) even in the most relaxed places I know. Sadly, the world may be going backwards in this respect, as in so many others.

Part of the process of reaching this nirvana is for naturists to develop thicker skins - see JGw's post - when it comes to the presence of textiles.

 
Posted : June 29, 2011 5:11 pm
Brigitte
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Ah all reasonable points yes.....but it's never a fair swop is it.

I mean, textiles can and do frequently use naturist beaches, or beaches well known for naturism but all hell would break loose if you invaded 'their' beaches! That is something which is profoundly irritating, there may be miles of beach, there is a measly 200 yards set aside for naturist use and some people make a point of using it clothed. I don't know why they do unless it's to be sarcastic and or obnoxious.

I still fail to understand why people should be dressed in a naturist resort, and Euronat is supposedly that rather than optional. Indeed I have a France4naturism brochure including Euronat, and the list of rules in there are very explicit on enforced nudity in the resorts, so they should be doing a better job on site if they mean anything at all.

'I figure life's a gift and I don't intend wasting it. You never know what hand you're gonna get dealt next.' Titanic.'Shine as a glow worm if you cannot as a star.' Thomas Andrews, shipbuilder.
'We'll miss the matinee but we'll make the night show.' The Greatest Show on Earth 1952.

 
Posted : June 30, 2011 2:24 pm
John Gw
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Ah all reasonable points yes.....but it's never a fair swop is it.

I mean, textiles can and do frequently use naturist beaches, or beaches well known for naturism but all hell would break loose if you invaded 'their' beaches! That is something which is profoundly irritating, there may be miles of beach, there is a measly 200 yards set aside for naturist use and some people make a point of using it clothed. I don't know why they do unless it's to be sarcastic and or obnoxious.

I still fail to understand why people should be dressed in a naturist resort, and Euronat is supposedly that rather than optional. Indeed I have a France4naturism brochure including Euronat, and the list of rules in there are very explicit on enforced nudity in the resorts, so they should be doing a better job on site if they mean anything at all.

I think this previous post might be relevant.

When i went to Cap d'Agde, very few people were out naked after 9pm in the shops, restaurants etc. If I was out and naked at that time, did feel rather uncomfortable at being surrounded by an almost textile environment

This is a common phenomenon in most French resorts, including ones like CHM Montalivet where the welcome leaflet (in French) includes a sentence to the effect that

From memory and my translation:
This is a naturist establishment you are expected to not embarass people who are naked at any time.

It was my wife (who usually wore just a pareo in the evening) who felt most embarassment initially, but these days she is sometimes the only other naked person.

and also this one

A comment elsewhere in NC by Ian the milfmog has prompted me to start this topic with this offering:

This topic seems to have raised a whole can of worms, so it has taken me a bit of time to sort out some relevant information.

I have no interest here in changing anyone's attitude to nudity, but I would like to put the whole question into context using data from the only reliable source to which I have access - a survey conducted in 2001 by National Opinion Polls, one of the major professional polling organisations.

This showed that twice as many people have sunbathed naked compared to those who find the practice objectionable (14% compared with 7%).
It also found that a quarter of the population have swum naked one or more times, and that the overwhelming majority of the population find beach and similar nudity perfectly acceptable.

The main implication of this is that people who would be attracted by a naturist beach outnumber those who find the practice objectionable in a ratio of more than two to one.
In spite of this naturists (and people who enjoy beach nudity but would not call themselves naturists) do confine their holidays to the few places where there are suitable beaches.

Fuerteventura and in particular the lagoons El Cotillo have, for many decades, been such a place.

It is an unfortunate fact that naturist friendly locations like El Cotillo tend to have a friendly, low key and relaxed atmosphere and that in the modern world this has made them attractive to an increasing number of people.
This has resulted in a "textile" invasion.
As far as I can ascertain, the number of naturist families in all the lagoons has remained relatively constant, while the number of "textiles" has increased - especially in the main holiday season.

It is therefore my contention that, out of common courtesy, the small proportion of people who find nudity objectionable should stay away from the even smaller proportion of locations where nudity is to be found.
After all, naturists do continue to avoid the overwhelming majority of beaches.

Edited to add:
In defense of some of the people who are surprised by the presence of nudity on the lagoon beaches I must say that some holiday companies seem to go out of their way to conceal the fact that naturism takes place at El Cotillo.

I posted this to a long and lively discussion in Fuerteventura Forum having returned to the forum after an absence of several months.
Since then - nothing.

JOhn
Do not do unto others as you would that they should do unto you. Their tastes may not be the same.
George Bernard Shaw, Maxims for Revolutionaries

 
Posted : June 30, 2011 4:49 pm
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Like Brigitte, I fail to see why people should be dressed in a naturist resort which is why I picked up on MarknGail's similar experience to mine at Euronat and raised the question in the first place.

After all, it's not a mixed textile/naturist "clothing optional" environment is it? There are many signs around saying it's naturist, perhaps they should be more forceful. If people don't like it then they can holiday elsewhere as far as I'm concerned.

But back to my original question, has anyone else experienced a large proportion of people dressed at Euronat?

 
Posted : July 1, 2011 11:59 pm
John Gw
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<snip>
But back to my original question, has anyone else experienced a large proportion of people dressed at Euronat?

I cannot speak for Euronat, but at CHM Montalivet and most of the larger French places where I have stayed almost everybody is dressed in the evening and there are always plenty of people dressed during the day.

In some cases it is because they are tender souls who cannot take the "cool" mornings without clothing and in other cases they are on their way in or out of the site.

That being said, there do seem to be rather more textiles than one would expect.

JOhn
Do not do unto others as you would that they should do unto you. Their tastes may not be the same.
George Bernard Shaw, Maxims for Revolutionaries

 
Posted : July 2, 2011 10:43 am
littleone2010
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We stayed at Euronat 3 years ago and at La Jenny a few weeks ago. On both occasions it was the end of May beginning of June when the weather isn't at it's best but was still pretty warm, certainly warm enough to be fully naked all day.

I have to say that for establishments that class themselves as naturist, not clothing optional, there was a distinct lack of encouragement let alone enforcement of the naturist principles.  It seems than commercial greed to fill spaces is more important than being naked so it would seem that if you are prepared to pay to stay, you needn't be naked at any time other than in the pool.
Douglas

 
Posted : July 2, 2011 7:40 pm
John Gw
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We stayed at Euronat 3 years ago and at La Jenny a few weeks ago. On both occasions it was the end of May beginning of June when the weather isn't at it's best but was still pretty warm, certainly warm enough to be fully naked all day.

I have to say that for establishments that class themselves as naturist, not clothing optional, there was a distinct lack of encouragement let alone enforcement of the naturist principles.  It seems than commercial greed to fill spaces is more important than being naked so it would seem that if you are prepared to pay to stay, you needn't be naked at any time other than in the pool.
Douglas

My bold italics above.
A commercial establishment is legally obliged to put commercial greed before principles - that has always been the case in the UK and we are successfully exporting these principles to the common market (unfortunately).

JOhn
Do not do unto others as you would that they should do unto you. Their tastes may not be the same.
George Bernard Shaw, Maxims for Revolutionaries

 
Posted : July 2, 2011 7:54 pm
susan
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hmmm  very mixed      the most naturist site we have been too is Sabliere  Susan  🙂

keep bare  and smooth  ! and smile if you see us  in the UK sun clubs that we go during spring summer  Telford is a big fave of ours  Morfa And Studland Beach  and  any where France Susan

 
Posted : July 8, 2011 12:37 pm
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