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Why not try for a new naturist beach?

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suffolksunseeker
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Now that Holkham is no longer naturist, it would be interesting to know if BN or another band of eager naturists could lobby Norfolk/Suffolk councils for a new stretch of naturist beach.
For example, Trimingham is a lovely beach, usually deserted even on a hot day.
There must be some beaches that could be designated naturist?

 
Posted : August 14, 2013 11:44 am
Brigitte
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There could be but as we seem to have grave difficulty holding onto the ones we have, the likelihood of getting a new one appears doubtful.

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Posted : August 14, 2013 3:04 pm
milfmog
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BN is almost entirely run by volunteers. So if you live reasonably close, why not get in touch and volunteer your help? They are far more likely to get behind you and assist than they are to do it all for you; is there not a famous quote along the lines of "The Good Lord helps those who help themselves"?

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Ian.

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Posted : August 14, 2013 3:27 pm
Katya
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I think would be interesting to know if 'BN or another band of eager naturists' could actually purchase and henceforth own a beach. Is this a totally incredible notion?

I'm thinking: Studland is owned by the National Trust (right?). Isn't the National Trust a charity? If so, maybe 'BN or another band of eager naturists' could set up a charity; say the 'Trimingham Beach Conservation Trust'. Maybe there would be some environmental groups (who are indifferent to, but not against, naturism) that could be allies?

I'd been wondering whether 'BN or another band of eager naturists' could form an alliance with the Woodland Trust because I like the idea of a naturist woodland, but a beach would be good too.

 
Posted : August 14, 2013 3:36 pm
cherry and john
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Is this a totally incredible notion?

Probably totally.

A few years back BN had the notion of creating a 'central' naturist facility - a club of its own so to speak.

The arguments about where it should actually be located went on ad infinitum and then all of a sudden somebody realised that in fact they wouldn't be able to afford either the purchase or the upkeep.

So ... where would you have this mythical beach?  ???

 
Posted : August 14, 2013 4:22 pm
NudeWiking
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Purchase and own a beach??? Can pieces of the british shoreline be private property as in "get of my beach"?  :-
Best regards Søren

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Posted : August 14, 2013 6:26 pm
Katya
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Purchase and own a beach??? Can pieces of the british shoreline be private property as in "get of my beach"?  :-

I don't know any lawyers but I used to know some law students. They could be wrong, but the gist of what they told me was that all beaches in the UK are owned by someone. The area below the high tide mark is owned by the Queen and the area above the high tide mark belongs to whoever owns the adjacent land. Most of the areas above the high tide mark are owned by local councils, English Heritage and the National Trust but some are owned by other people, often rich people like lords or farmers. I'm not sure how this relates to the "get off my beach" thing though, as I believe trespass law is complicated.

Interestingly, I found that 'Denmark is basically a privately-owned country. Only around 500 km (under 7%) of the coast is in public ownership' (see: http://www.naturalengland.org.uk/Images/annex4CoastalAccessEuropePartB_tcm6-9034.pdf ), which I guess is a similar proportion to in the UK. However, section 3.2.2 and Figure 3.2 in this document describes 'Current Coastal Access Rights and Legislation' in Denmark. Again complicated. I'd guess there are more opportunities for 'ordinary' people to access and do things on Danish beaches than UK beaches (but I'm sure there are people on this forum who know more about UK law than I do). I know the Ramblers Association are often arguing the finer points of law with land owner/authorities.

 
Posted : August 15, 2013 8:10 am
ric
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im not a fan of beaches....rather go for a stroll in the countryside , but it seems to me that theres nothing to stop naturists using any quiet beach...which i do on rare occasions.. you could even argue that getting one designated as naturist just attracts the meerkats and perverts and sends out the message that we as naturists think were doing summit odd if we need special places to do it..

 
Posted : August 15, 2013 8:46 am
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im not a fan of beaches....rather go for a stroll in the countryside , but it seems to me that theres nothing to stop naturists using any quiet beach...which i do on rare occasions.. you could even argue that getting one designated as naturist just attracts the meerkats and perverts and sends out the message that we as naturists think were doing summit odd if we need special places to do it..

I rather tend to agree with Ric. Although it's good to have recognised naturist beaches, where you may be in the company of other like-minded souls - there's much to be said for just stripping off discreetly on any quiet beach and relaxing in the buff. It does minimise the 'meerkat' problem.

And I don't recall any recent cases of people getting in to serious trouble for skinny-dipping on remote rural beaches in the UK. Unless anyone knows otherwise?

Mike

 
Posted : August 15, 2013 9:26 am
rayb
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I must agree with Ric and Mike.
While touring in France we found that whenever we went to a beach that was advertized in books or the internet as naturist there were always singles wandering around, obviously more interested in what they could see than sunbathing.
We found that in most places that if we walked about 200yds from the main beach entrances we were able to sunbathe without a problem and found that others had the same idea.

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Posted : August 15, 2013 9:33 am
NudeWiking
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Katya.
Im not sure those numbers are correct but never mind. All I know for sure is that everybody can go to what ever beach they wish ( perhaps with very few exceptions). Restrictions when it comes to private beaches are that you can not stay closer than 50m from buildings otherwise there are no difference between public and private owned beaches. The owner of the land adjacent to the beach can not ask people to leave unless they are within the 50m of his house. the definiton of beach here is the area between the waterline and  permanent growth/vegetation e.g. grass etc.
Im a bit shocked that a private landowner can ban nudity on a beach even if its not close to his house, thats impossible here.
best regards Søren

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Posted : August 15, 2013 9:58 am
ric
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"Im a bit shocked that a private landowner can ban nudity on a beach even if its not close to his house, thats impossible here.
best regards Søren"

im not at all sure that they can.... just cos the papers say the owners have banned nudity dont actually mean they can actually enforce their ban......unless anyone can actually quote the relevent law?

 
Posted : August 15, 2013 11:31 am
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as studland beach is a national trust site is there not any national trust sites in essex/suffolk/norfolk where they would be allowed to have a naturist section in
brian

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Posted : August 17, 2013 4:23 pm
Barespirit
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Individuals when suggesting that beach used by occasional naturists be made officially C/O normally a swift rejection from the local authority.  If you do want to get official acceptance then you need to from a local action group and get support from the wider community; the local authority may take the hint but even then the anti-brigade will have a loud voice.

 
Posted : August 18, 2013 10:45 am