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Are some naturists to rude? (if the right word)

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tribalbrit
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I was out again yesterday evening and met up with a woman I see regularly and have made the effort to explain about naturism and the legalities etc. She has said that seeing me doesn't bother her but I do cover my bits when meeting her on a walk.
She was telling me that about 3 or 4 weeks ago there were a group of male naturists parked up at Budby water works about to go for a walk as she was exiting the forest. She explained to me that she felt a little uncomfortable having to walk through a group of a dozen or more naked men to get to her car.
A couple of the men cheerfully bid her good morning to which she replied but was made to feel uncomfortable when a third man started flaunting his bits in front of her. (she showed me the action witnessed) which can only be described as flaunting. She told the guy that she didn't want to see this, to which he replied that he was doing nothing wrong and that people just didn't under stand them. (naturist).
My question is, do you think that in this situation the men should have been a little more thoughtful and covered themselves while she passed through them? (narrow path, un-avoidable)
My concerns are that I and others regularly walk this area naked and I for one have taken time to speak to this woman and others in the past and thought I had appeased her discomfort.
Also given a post recently by Gildo concerning reports made to the head warden of this area, do you think on the whole we should be a bit more mindful of others perceptions, so not to upset the apple cart, as it were?
I walk this area most days in the summer months and at present and would be very disappointed if the actions of a few spoil it for me and others.
Obviously I only have this woman's account of the incident but have no reason to doubt her. As said she has never had a problem seeing and talking with me.
Thoughts please.

 
Posted : October 11, 2019 4:18 pm
The Tibetan Hat
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Immediate thought is the third man is a prat, and if he'd have been walking with me I'd have told him so.

Makes me wonder if it's here or elsewhere they learn about Sherwood/Budby, and whether everytime we talk about walking there we need to remind these man how to behave. Seems it's difficult to share good experiences and encourage considerate use, withouth giving people the wrong idea.

Frankly, stories like the one related are beginning to make me feel less like using Budby, and more like finding my own quiet places without any reputation naturist use or er... misuse.
Never mind textile dog-walkers, it's putting me off.

 
Posted : October 11, 2019 4:49 pm
John Gw
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It seems to me that the best that can be done is to get some sort of description and if possible contact the group leader to allow him to caution the individual.
Can I have permission to re-post this information to the appropriate BN forum as this may help find which group was inolved.

JOhn
Do not do unto others as you would that they should do unto you. Their tastes may not be the same.
George Bernard Shaw, Maxims for Revolutionaries

 
Posted : October 11, 2019 5:02 pm
sunnydays
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I thought most naturists were thoughtful and respectful people, and the situation that tribalbrit has described shouldn’t happen.

When I’m naked and come in contact with a woman or even a man in a tight or narrow section of path I would double back to a place where the path was wide enough for them to pass in comfort. 
I would give cheerful hello, make apologies if necessary, and I would cover myself, and if I don’t have anything suitable I could at least use my hand, although I find turning away slightly so the only offending thing they could see is my bum, which most people have found acceptable.

We don’t need so called naturists being suggestive, waving their bits to anyone, or making other people feel awkward.  Naturists are a small section of the community, and they should be promoting themselves as respectful people, and not going around offending everyone.
 

There’s Something Therapeutic About Being Naked

 
Posted : October 11, 2019 5:18 pm
Davie
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Assuming the women is correct we cannot defend the indefensible. Through hard work by many naturists it's easier now than ever before to be naked when out walking.

With that in mind we need to be conscious of the feeling of non-naturists. That doesn't mean we have to cover up on every occasion but it does mean we have to treat other people with respect. I believe there was a similar problem at Abbey House Gardens which almost lost access to the lower gardens on clothes optional days. Any one who claims to be a naturist needs to behave themselves. (As do others) Whilst  we now have more of a "licence" to free-range that "licence" does not extend to discourteous or exhibitionist behaviour.

Davie  8)

 
Posted : October 11, 2019 6:12 pm
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Davie is absolutely right, that was frankly appalling behaviour and not what should be expected; that guy deserves to be at the very least threatened with exclusion from his walking group.
I'm afraid there's rather too much exhibitionism and flaunting from a lot of men who describe themselves as nudists or naturists but are really just using that as an acceptable label for their less acceptable motivations - at least that's the impression I've gained over some years.

 
Posted : October 11, 2019 6:18 pm
tribalbrit
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It seems to me that the best that can be done is to get some sort of description and if possible contact the group leader to allow him to caution the individual.
Can I have permission to re-post this information to the appropriate BN forum as this may help find which group was inolved.

Please do. I see this woman most days and would hate her to feel uncomfortable when approaching me or others.

 
Posted : October 11, 2019 7:20 pm
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I cant disagree with any of the above. It has been a long road to get here and it doesnt take much for the tide to turn e.g family swim events.

 
Posted : October 11, 2019 7:21 pm
gildo
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I was out again yesterday evening and met up with a woman I see regularly and have made the effort to explain about naturism and the legalities etc. She has said that seeing me doesn't bother her but I do cover my bits when meeting her on a walk.
She was telling me that about 3 or 4 weeks ago there were a group of male naturists parked up at Budby water works about to go for a walk as she was exiting the forest. She explained to me that she felt a little uncomfortable having to walk through a group of a dozen or more naked men to get to her car.
A couple of the men cheerfully bid her good morning to which she replied but was made to feel uncomfortable when a third man started flaunting his bits in front of her. (she showed me the action witnessed) which can only be described as flaunting. She told the guy that she didn't want to see this, to which he replied that he was doing nothing wrong and that people just didn't under stand them. (naturist).
My question is, do you think that in this situation the men should have been a little more thoughtful and covered themselves while she passed through them? (narrow path, un-avoidable)
My concerns are that I and others regularly walk this area naked and I for one have taken time to speak to this woman and others in the past and thought I had appeased her discomfort.
Also given a post recently by Gildo concerning reports made to the head warden of this area, do you think on the whole we should be a bit more mindful of others perceptions, so not to upset the apple cart, as it were?
I walk this area most days in the summer months and at present and would be very disappointed if the actions of a few spoil it for me and others.
Obviously I only have this woman's account of the incident but have no reason to doubt her. As said she has never had a problem seeing and talking with me.
Thoughts please.

I would definitely like to know if anyone has any information about this, I will follow it up if there is any. Regarding covering up more though, I don't think this is the issue. It has been established with the wardens that people will be naked in the area and that it is not about the state of dress that is the issue, it is about behaviour dressed or not. I was out walking a couple of days ago and as I approached the place where my car was parked a group of about a dozen people walked towards me. They appeared to be lead by a warden (one I haven't met before) and most of them were carrying clip boards or papers. I was naked and just smiled and said hello as usual and they all replied with a cheery hello. There was no sign of any discomfort or disapproval from anyone.

 
Posted : October 12, 2019 10:28 am
tribalbrit
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Well I spoke to the woman whilst out yesterday, she was unable to give an accurate description of the culprit,
Perhaps the nakedness put her off taking notice of anything else.

 
Posted : October 17, 2019 5:44 pm
gildo
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Its good to know you have tried to give her some reassurance, hopefully she will realise we are not all out to make her feel uncomfortable.

 
Posted : October 17, 2019 6:20 pm